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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:54 pm 
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I think Henry is out of the question at this point. He is probably Kansas' to lose and may end up back at Memphis now that Pastner was hired.

Wall is plausible and would probably be the biggest recruiting "victory" in a very long time for UK, since we would be stealing him from UNC and Duke (Wall lives in NC).

But if Pat and Meeks return, Wall comes and possibly another Memphis recruit (Nolan Dennis?) then we should be pretty good from the start. #1 seed is a stretch I think but its just nice to be in the conversation now.

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If Meeks comes back, you guys are a legit contender again and will get a #1 seed by going undefeated or getting maybe 1 loss in the weak SEC. LSU is the only team that can compete.

And yeah, definitely get used to the 1 and done.

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http://www.sportspickle.com/article:129 ... in-5-years

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John Calipari needs to be thrown out of the NCAA. It's pretty obvious he is the reason these schools are getting their wins taken away to me.

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There are some rumblings out there that a couple media outlets are investigating Wall & Cousins in regards to illegal payments. That would just be a shame if it was true. :lol:

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There are now two sources, one a member of the national media, who indicate there is a race to reveal some NCAA transgressions by UK frosh stars, John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins.

I am told, though I have no personal knowledge nor evidence myself whatsoever, that the investigations concern cash money and, perhaps, real estate.

There are two nationally known media sources who are, according to sources, scurrying to obtain the last bit of evidence that will allow them to publish the story. One, I’m advised, is the New York Times. The other, one of the major online sports sites.

As per usual, neither of my sources mentioned UK coach John Calipari by name. Only the players were named.

This is all I have at this time. Frankly, it’s not much. But, the facts are these. 1) John Calipari has a track record that would not rule out such a situation. 2) These two players, by their actions, indicated they would have played for Calipari at North Dakota A & M, if that’s where he was coaching. 3) None of the Tobacco Road schools surprisingly gave a serious look at Wall, though he was a local kid.

It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. Or, if it’s just idle gossip. Stay tuned.

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As some of you might have heard, an anonymous blogger at LEO wrote something about a story coming out regarding violations committed by John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins. As is the case with absurd rumors that seem to pop up this time of the year (usually regarding recruiting), we generally try to ignore them. This one has taken on a new life though, so Matt wanted me to pass along a few things (doing things like this might be why he thinks he’s my boss).

First of all, he said it is completely and utterly untrue. The allegations have absolutely no validity or even a shred of truth to them. Kentucky fans have nothing to worry about.

Second, he said that he’s spent a good portion of his day calling around to national media writers and not one says they’ve heard any inkling of a possible national story regarding violations. No one he spoke with had heard anything about any allegations or any stories being written.

So, that’s it. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. This, of course, proves the age-old internet proverb to be true. Don’t trust anything written by Bryan the Intern or anyone with an alias. Even if they do write for a supposedly legitimate publication.
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I imagine things like this will continue to pop up. This guy also wrote an article saying UK was leaving the SEC and joining..... the NBA Eastern Conference.

I'll wait to hear the inevitable bad news from ESPN.

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Duke showed no interest in Wall because they don't take one and dones.

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Actually if memory serves me right Duke and Miami were in Wall's final three with Kentucky. His rivals account says K recruited him

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Yeah the source I got that from is pretty shaky, lol. But hey it makes you think doesn't it? :lol:

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For shits and giggles I'll clarify.... Cal is dirty, as is every major coach in the country, and I'm sure the NCAA would love to crack down him as hard as ever at UK. When I first read it, not knowing the history of the blog, I got a little anxious. So I'll wait to hear it from a national media outlet or the website I linked.

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Bobby Knight was never dirty. Fuck do I ever miss The General.


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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.

"Dirty" is relative. A coach can cheat by sending a text message at the wrong time or by paying his players. Everyone in the game does something in between.

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Yeah but Calipari is a step above the rest. He certainly isn't a classy guy like Coach K.

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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.


You act like if there is something wrong with choking players.


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Yeah but Calipari is a step above the rest. He certainly isn't a classy guy like Coach K.


I can't argue that because you're right. :lol: Cal not being named SEC COY says a lot about what the other coaches in the conference think of him, IMO. I've maintained that he cheats and will continue to, hopefully being at a place like UK will alleviate the need to be shady (as far as getting talent, exposure, etc.)

But yea, he cheats as bad or worse than everybody else.

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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.


You act like if there is something wrong with choking players.


I don't know what I was thinking!

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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.

"Dirty" is relative. A coach can cheat by sending a text message at the wrong time or by paying his players. Everyone in the game does something in between.


Given that the NCAA has one billion rules and many of them are stupid, yes I'm sure even some of the most reputable coaches in the game have had themselves or their staff "break a rule" one way or the other. I won't argue that. But there are levels of disregard for the rules and levels of dirtiness.....you can have Coach A who maybe occasionally dials a call too many or you can have a Coach B who furiously exceeds the limits by a wide margin (cough Kelvin Sampson cough).

And there is intent also and the matter of the kind of atmosphere you create around your program. Obviously making direct cash payments to players is something any coach knows is against the rules and a blatant violation. Unless you want to put that in the same category as giving a kid a lift because it is raining outside (it has happened and the NCAA calls it a violation, lol).

My opinion is that Calipari is good at turning a blind eye towards the things going on around him and/or he has people who get things done discreetly for him, therefore allowing him to always claim he doesn't know what happened. Or maybe he really is the ringleader and gives direct orders, I dunno. Either way it is obvious he is seen as more greasy than the next guy simply because of the two vacated Final Fours. If not for that, he would probably not draw as much attention.

It is what it is I guess.

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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.


You act like if there is something wrong with choking players.


Especially Neil Reed. He was a little bitch.

And bonus points for punching a cop and stuffing a fan in a trash can. :cope:

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No he expressed his "integrity" by throwing chairs and choking players.

"Dirty" is relative. A coach can cheat by sending a text message at the wrong time or by paying his players. Everyone in the game does something in between.


Given that the NCAA has one billion rules and many of them are stupid, yes I'm sure even some of the most reputable coaches in the game have had themselves or their staff "break a rule" one way or the other. I won't argue that. But there are levels of disregard for the rules and levels of dirtiness.....you can have Coach A who maybe occasionally dials a call too many or you can have a Coach B who furiously exceeds the limits by a wide margin (cough Kelvin Sampson cough).

And there is intent also and the matter of the kind of atmosphere you create around your program. Obviously making direct cash payments to players is something any coach knows is against the rules and a blatant violation. Unless you want to put that in the same category as giving a kid a lift because it is raining outside (it has happened and the NCAA calls it a violation, lol).

My opinion is that Calipari is good at turning a blind eye towards the things going on around him and/or he has people who get things done discreetly for him, therefore allowing him to always claim he doesn't know what happened. Or maybe he really is the ringleader and gives direct orders, I dunno. Either way it is obvious he is seen as more greasy than the next guy simply because of the two vacated Final Fours. If not for that, he would probably not draw as much attention.

It is what it is I guess.


I'm not trying to defend Calipari, just pointing out that its not an honest game anymore. (I realize that can be a way of defending Cal but its not my intent.) There are no "clean" programs relative to past standards.

I've always wondered how Eddie Sutton is so revered even after he left UK on probation in the late 80s. That story is as bad or worse then Cals, also resulted in a number of wins being taken away. Was there an uproar over him like there is Cal?

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No because Eddie Sutton never won shit at UK.

On the other hand Purdue three-peated as Big Ten champs in the early 90's and eventually the wins in one of those seasons was taken away due to Frank Kendrick violating rules.........but nobody remembers or cares outside the IU-PU world.

All I can say is having championships and/or Final Four appearances stripped from the record books is pretty damn rare so when it happens people take notice more And with Calipari it has happened twice. If Eddie Sutton had gotten 2 final fours stripped from UK by his actions I am pretty sure people would remember that more. But as it is, just a footnote in history. And plus he won a ton of games at Okie State without further violations and got their court named after him so heck most people you talk to today probably only remember Eddie Sutton as the Okie State coach not a former UK coach.

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And with Calipari heck I think people had generally forgot about the Camby/UMass thing. He was doing great work at Memphis. Yes people whispered about the whole World Wide Wes connection but if Memphis didn't get busted and that 2nd Final Four taken away, I doubt people would be raising as much stink about Calipari.

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